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Chantal's avatar

“Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes”. Proverbs 26:5

Jace's avatar

The stupid man cannot know; the fool cannot understand this

Psalm 92:6

Jace's avatar

I'm not sure if I'm the fool u are referring to.

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Chantal's avatar

Not at all! I was pointing out the rightness of your substack.

Jace's avatar

I was hoping so, but would have been ok with it either way

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Debatable!'s avatar

He didn’t look like he had dementia to me, the look on his face looked fake to me, I think this dementia thing is getting push on purpose, this seems like it was very well planned out. It’s to perfect not to be scripted, and to obvious for the unfortunate American condition not to guide right into effect. Either we get trump who comes with a lot more control which is what it’s always about in the end, but he has to many fake felony’s so bidens dementia that ruined the country is finally so out in the open that they need to make a change, and we know who trained that change and who’s sitting ion the other side of the ear piece regardless of which one gets the seat. The look on bidens face was a true slap in the face to all of us. That was not the look of a man with dementia it was the look of a bad actor and a terrible terrible person. This is just how I feel, I can’t prove that it’s true, but no one can prove that it’s not true and there in lies the heart of the problem. I know that i can’t trust anyone who takes bidens place, I also know that things only get worse for all of us like they always do at the end of the day!! If you think I’m wrong please explain! I believe whole heartedly that these are the kind of debates that need to be taking place, real people with no media coverage!!! I’m actually planning on trying to people in my community to assemble together to start talking about how the politics in our direct communities are affecting us. We are to divided and to trusting of electronics when we should be gathering in person to address the things that truly matter. I’m going to start by trying to join all the church’s in my area on a Sunday to talk in person about things of importance, if it works God willing I’m going to try and get teams together to talk to and flyer the none church goers and students to attend on a different date

Jace's avatar

I agree with much of what u wrote.

But, I had the misfortune of losing a grandparent to dementia and have read a little bit about it.

Certainly, that makes me far from being an expert.

But, to me he seems to clearly have symptoms of some sort of dementia (or other cognitive issues).

It does appear to have been intentionally orchestrated.

Particularly, the early date of the debate, prior to an official nomination.

As far as I know that is unusual, if not unprecedented.

If there is nothing wrong with him, then why would they need to orchestrate anything at all?

Debatable!'s avatar

To me it feels like even the trump side is orchestrated, I’ve been at this for a really long time. The deeper you dig into the these people looking for Answers you come across the 13 families, it keeps happening at least to me. These people have a thing about creating the thesis and the antithesis. Meaning they create the problem then they create the solution to the problem to make it look like they care, but there objective stays the same. The FED prints money at will, I keep asking myself how many paid actors are out there. I don’t know either of them personally so I can’t know for sure what they have going on, but I know the media is very dishonest. It just feels wrong! The look on bidens face ) during what I saw as an incredibly childish argument for people who believe they should be running our country ) seemed really fake, so did the responses. I can prove nothing, except that I feel like deception is happening on many many layers.

Jace's avatar

I tend to worry that there is an element of truth to what you are saying.

There may be some sort of "deep state" influencing both sides.

But, they seem to hate Trump so much. They have treated him many times worse than any other president I've seen.

They seem to be willing to do anything to stop him.

Things that we have rarely or never seen attempted before.

Their staunch opposition of him is the reason I support him.

It's more that I fear them than that I support him.

Debatable!'s avatar

If what a lot of are thinking is taking place here is actually what’s happening, it’s been going since there were kings and queens, even before. They would have figured long long ago how to control the public through politics, war and acting. What I do when thinking about probabilities is something called cause and effect analysis ( it’s not my term but it’s something I’ve done my entire life from early childhood) my parents, my teachers everyone hated it, because i analyzed everything down to the root cause of the action. Every word spoken has a reason behind it, every action has an action behind it. I try to think about how my words even may travel and the effect everything I say could have on the person they were spoken to and how they would travel from that person on. I try to think about Likely scenarios that could develop from the path my words take. I am a very caring person for this reason I know that if my words are in correct that people may take them seriously and it could cause them to be mislead very easily, even the smallest mistake could make a dramatic difference in a persons life. For this reason I am an incredibly honest Person, this also makes people really mad because I chose honesty over feelings, so I’m very good at accepting my own mistakes and apologizing but I’m also very good at pointing out others mistakes and being very honest about it. I like to try and explain myself a bit when I’m having one of these kinds of conversations. I have been down alot of different patterns of thought when trying to figure out why I feel like something is do incredibly wrong with the systems we abide by, the reason for there creation, who created them and they stand to gain by being in control of what they are in control of, I also think about what they stand to loose if there positions were taken from them, and what lengths they might take to keep things going how they are, then I look at possible objectives based on there lack of care , lack of respect and lack of accountability toward the public. Like I said I can not prove this is taking place, I will not say that I can, I also have ideas for solutions, but I not the only person with ideas so I’m talking to everyone trying to raise awareness that we all need to be uniting and brainstorming together, because I feel like something is very wrong, and I don’t think I’m the only one who can truly feel it. I think it’s the reason for the mass Depression, I just am not fully sure if people are putting together why they are depressed because they are mislead. Anyways this is how I come to the conclusion that I have come to. Sorry for the length of my explanation. God bless

Jace's avatar

What are the solutions?

(Also, I appreciate honesty, but please be kind in ur criticism of me. I'm very sensitive.

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Yolanda Pritam Hari's avatar

That's too funny Jace!!!

Jace's avatar

Thank you

Alyson's avatar

😂

Andy G's avatar

the only thing you wrote that I disagree with was the supposedly mocking “they clearly have no selfish motives”

While of course many of them do (including in particular all of the politicians), some of the people you cite don’t have selfish motives per se. They are not - at least primarily - advocating for their personal self-interest.

They are just that incredibly clueless.

Even if virtue-signaling is a big component…

Jace's avatar

I agree with you

It was tongue in cheek, not meant to be taken literally.

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Andy G's avatar

No, my point is that the whole thing was clearly tongue in cheek - which I love.

But this one point is actually neither true nor untrue. Some of these folks are *definitely* self-interested in their liberal-BSing. While others are just cluelessly advocating things that are obviously not in their own self-interest, but less obviously are not actually in the interest of the people they purportedly are trying to help. So the generalization doesn’t work (in the way that most of your others really do).

Yeah, I’m a nitpicker… 😏

Jace's avatar

I hear you

But, I don't feel like I need to be that careful with something like that, when the whole thing is tongue in cheek in the first place.

I do appreciate ur constructive criticism though.

Thanks

reality speaks's avatar

Best piece I have read on Biden’s debate performance yet. Funny and full of wit. Thanks for sharing it

Debatable!'s avatar

Understandable, well I hope nothing but happiness and positivity comes your way! God bless, thank you for engaging!

Jace's avatar

U too!

I think it's worth trying or at least feeing it out with ur church group. U don't really have much to lose.

Sometimes we regret the things we might have done, but did not do more than the things we did that didn't go as planned.

(I got that advice from people far wiser than me and I don't heed it nearly as much as I should)

Debatable!'s avatar

I came across something today called the Lucis trust, it is the spiritual arm of the United Nations it was founded in 1922 by a woman named Alice Bailey at one point it was called the Lucifer trust. This is definitive proof that the United Nations was founded on lucifarianism. Alice was a devout lucifarian, believing the the fallen angels made the ultimate sacrifice by being cast out, she believed that man was carnal until the Lucifer came and educated him! The site has archives to very old UN meetings were they talked directly about there progress in bringing Lucifer into the world. Our government is part of the UN right? Weather we all believe in God or not, this is what our government believes. I thought I would share because of how crazy this actually is, it was never hidden.

Debatable!'s avatar

Turns out that theosophical and Lucifarian go hand and hand, see it’s a perversion of language. Or at least I had never made that connection until I read about theosophical today.

Debatable!'s avatar

If someone put something together like I’m trying to do in your community would you attend? It’s not about assembling against the powers that be it’s about assembling for us, it’s about putting all the left and right to bed and coming together to discuss the way we want to live together instead trusting everything we’re told, we take responsibility for ourselves and find what works best for all of us. Without our phones in hand, without media or any kind of third party coverage just honest people asking each other honest questions and trying to find honest solutions if there’s a disagreement. It’s also about really knowing our communities to start!

Jace's avatar

I'm not a good barometer.

I'm very introverted, antisocial and kind of lazy

I wouldn't go, but I go to almost nothing unless I feel absolutely obligated.

Debatable!'s avatar

The one and only one that I can think of is assembling in person starting small, community based. I love my church but even church is good at keeping people divided. I was thinking of going to all the churches in my community and to set up something where we all go to the same place on a Sunday and actually talk in person about how are community is being affected politically and talk about the big picture as well. There are so many people out there that are fed up but we are so busy most of have to work 6 days a week and get as much OT as possible just to make it, when we are home we are glued to our devices. I shouldn’t say most of us sorry, that I also can not prove but it seems like we are kept awfully busy so we don’t have time to ask questions. I don’t know if my idea will work but I’m going to try anyway. I definitely know I’m lacking when it comes to answering how we stop this thing, but I really feel like taking in person is the answer, and I know it could be fruitless to even attempt it, but I think it’s worth a try.

Jace's avatar

Worth a shot, I suppose.

U probably already know this, but there's a pretty good chance that u don't get much interest.

People are often busy and often don't like to get politically involved.

There's also the possibility that the churches, like the country itself, will be highly divided.

I'm not trying to discourage u, just trying to help to make sure u have realistic expectations.

Debatable!'s avatar

What do you think? Do you think we are at a place where we should be doing something about it? Those to debaters, were both presidents at one point, but publicly they surly don’t seem like the kind of people that should even be considered. There are billions of lives that need to be able to trust these people with their lives. I don’t trust either of them with my family lives! I don’t want my kids to have the same anxiety I have over bills, and they shouldn’t. The cost of living is at a place that is completely unreasonable now, a lot of people are in debt living paycheck to paycheck. It never really gets better, the problem keeps growing. We are to trusting (humanity in general) all of our information came from word of mouth, text books, internet and media. We just blindly trust everything we hear from our teachers and the people that claim to be leaders, the teachers just blindly accept what they read as well. At this point we have no idea what’s true. This needs to be stopped before it goes any further in my eyes. What do you think needs to happen? Or do you think I’m blowing it out of proportion?

Jace's avatar

I don't know

I'm not the right person to answer that question tbh.

I'm very concerned about the direction we're headed

The fact that they hate Trump makes me want him to win

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Jace's avatar

Haha

Don't feel bad, the study results were, coincidentally, released a few minutes after the debate.

How could u know?

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Jace's avatar

U seem to understand the mathematics behind Bidenomics

Not everyone gets it

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Once one understands that 1 x 1 = 2 then everything in the universe becomes clear.

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